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Post by Alex Catterall on Sept 17, 2004 13:38:57 GMT
You mean like you have a racially aggravated crime we will also have disability aggravated crimes?
Is that one you mean me ole' myagister?
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Post by Stuart Anslow on Sept 17, 2004 14:59:32 GMT
gotta agree thats not POLITICALLY CORRECT (PC)... in the days of old, maybe, but in light of DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION ACT pt 3, 2004, coming into force on 1st october 2004; its not a wise thing to do! ;D Sod politically correct, its a dam insenitive (read stupid) thing to do! Stuart
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Post by Anthony 'Antz' Whitaker on Sept 17, 2004 17:50:39 GMT
Hey. Has any of you lot got bad blisters on the balls of your feet? I had the MOTHER of all blisters. I peeled it off and there was ANOTHER one underneath!?!? How weird? From mid-July 2003 to Christmas Day 2003 I had blisters appearing on my left foot almost every fortnight; they kept bursting and becoming infected. The doctors tried a number of antibiotics to fight the infection, but they still kept coming back. Finally in December I was sent to a skin specialist who prescribed an anti-fungal cream which I applied to both feet twice daily for a fortnight, finishing on Christmas Day. Finally it did the trick and to this day (touch wood) I have not had another blister there since! If you have a blister, I can highly recommend those Compeed blister plasters (which are available in three different sizes, depending on where the blister is); they stick very well, won't come off if splashed with water, and when the blister eventually bursts it absorbs all the fluid inside a little compartment within the plaster -- these stopped my blisters from actually becoming infected when they burst. The best thing is that they also either stop or greatly ease the pain when walking (don't know how but it works!)
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Post by Andy "Mr Miyagi" Wright on Sept 18, 2004 8:16:48 GMT
You mean like you have a racially aggravated crime we will also have disability aggravated crimes? Is that one you mean me ole' myagister? quite right, alex! ..........and why not? DDA PT3 0ct 2004, fills the gap, for legislation started in 1995, which seeks to outlaw discrimination in all forms against disability. the stats are 1-in-5 of the uk pop has some form of disability. Pt3, now includes service providers (shops, pubs, etc) plus businesses below 15 people.
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Post by Travis Bowler on Sept 19, 2004 10:12:37 GMT
DDA PT3 0ct 2004, fills the gap, for legislation started in 1995, which seeks to outlaw discrimination in all forms against disability. the stats are 1-in-5 of the uk pop has some form of disability. Pt3, now includes service providers (shops, pubs, etc) plus businesses below 15 people. Really? I didn't know that. So if I'm on anti-psychotics(melleril say), and someone shouts "your acting psycho" to a third person I can sue coz I'm offended? Scary!!
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Post by Alex Catterall on Sept 20, 2004 16:27:13 GMT
Hmm, I don't think I've ever come across something like that. Give me and example will ya Myagi San?
I think that's taking it to the extreme there Trav. I know where you're coming from and people WILL abuse the system as they do today with currant anti-race discrimination laws.
One that tickles me is the "Organisation for Black Police Officers". Imagine having an "Organisation for White Police Officers", the anti-racists would have a field day! Bearing that in mind, I'm left wing.
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Post by Travis Bowler on Sept 21, 2004 1:40:48 GMT
Your right Alex. It was meant to be an extreme example, as that is what we could end up with if we continue down the slippery slope we're already half way down.
The problem is that everything is becoming legislated. And when you start to legislate against emotional impact (which is enormously subjective) you run the risk of having an almost clone society a few generations down the track - with no-one acting any differently to anyone else for fear of offending someone and getting charged. Once again.. a very extreme example, I just don't like the way we are heading, because I can already see it happening on a smaller scale (look at many workplaces these days... ).
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Post by Glen Doecke on Sept 21, 2004 2:22:37 GMT
I think that's taking it to the extreme there Trav. I know where you're coming from and people WILL abuse the system as they do today with currant anti-race discrimination laws. One that tickles me is the "Organisation for Black Police Officers". Imagine having an "Organisation for White Police Officers", the anti-racists would have a field day! Bearing that in mind, I'm left wing. Your totally correct Alex if the shoe was on the other foot look out to do gooders would have ya, according to statistics reverse racisum, the name for what you have described is on the up, allot of people are sick of being told don't be racist but when these groups that have been victimised in the past do it, its ok, allot of people have had enough and are starting to throw it back, I'm one of them, I beleive all is equal. where will it all end .
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Post by Alex Catterall on Sept 21, 2004 17:57:52 GMT
Ooh, look what I found! A can of worms! COOL!
Ha ha!
I have to say though that most of the time I think the legislation works out for the better. It's the unfortunate rarer instances that things get twisted I think.
Of course this depends on one's life experiences naturally. Psychologically we feel as if our freedom has been taken away from us (i think). I don't think it's quite that bad however.
It was funny. I applied for the police again just recently and the area that I'm in is trying to recruit more officers from ethnic minoritys to 'balance the books' so to speak. Which is fair enough really. Backwards but fine. On the equal oppurtunitys form that we fill in to say what our ethnicity is (which isn't supposed to effect our application *cough*) I put "white 'other'" as opposed to "white caucasion". Because I'm then classed as a minority I've got a better chance of getting through. That's positive discrimination at it's best... ;D
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Post by Travis Bowler on Sept 22, 2004 0:26:26 GMT
Good luck on your application Alex. We need some more cops who are level headed. Even without meeting you personally I can tell you wouldn't be one of those who goes around charging people just to try and get their stats up. To many of that type around We've been bombarded with adds saying "don't drive tired".. Huh.. ok.. suuuure. I've tried not to drive tired 3 times. And each and EVERY time, I've had a cop pull up behind me, bang on my windows, wake me up, and go on and on about why I am off to the side of the road taking a nap. They've then proceded to look around my car and check my licence; At the time it was a '99 Jeep Cherokee. Not a hoon mobile, not tacked up with a lift kit or anything - just a plain jeep... so it by no means looks suspicious. After that happens I was no longer able to rest coz I'm so annoyed... resulting in me driving the extra 100 odd kms to the next town before I reach a motel. Yeah. Great logic mr policeman!!
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Post by Tim White on Sept 22, 2004 2:48:06 GMT
Good luck Alex
Tim
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Post by Alex Catterall on Sept 22, 2004 15:33:32 GMT
Cheers fellas. Trav, you're such a rebel! ha ha!
To be honest I'm all up for the broken windows theory. I'd nick anyone for absolulty anything not out of status but because, it's the law. I've broken the law but if I get caught, I expect to be punished. I won't like it, but I deserve it. Nuff said.
In your situation though the driving tired scenario means to sleep in a designated parking zone which is safe. Motorways (not sure what there called over yonder) are the safest highways there are but that's only because everyones travelling at roughly the same speed in the same direction. If someone is stopped it becomes a death trap.
When I was a special constable (hobby bobby/P/T police officer) you'd find all sorts of things with the most normal vehicles. Part of it is b/s like out of date road tax but still part of the job. You gotta do it, the good and the bad.
Thanks anyway though. It's nice that you think I am level headed but I tend to get a bit anal in situations like that. Fortunatly I realise I do and can try and counter it. I don't enjoy being an arsehole with people.
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Post by Andy "Mr Miyagi" Wright on Sept 22, 2004 17:46:09 GMT
btw, under dda part 3, one can sue for "hurt feelings"... yes - read it and weep!
and even sadder, this sort of case will win in court with very little effort....
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Post by Andy "Mr Miyagi" Wright on Sept 22, 2004 17:50:29 GMT
Good luck on your application Alex. We need some more cops who are level headed. Even without meeting you personally I can tell you wouldn't be one of those who goes around charging people just to try and get their stats up. To many of that type around We've been bombarded with adds saying "don't drive tired".. Huh.. ok.. suuuure. I've tried not to drive tired 3 times. And each and EVERY time, I've had a cop pull up behind me, bang on my windows, wake me up, and go on and on about why I am off to the side of the road taking a nap. They've then proceded to look around my car and check my licence; At the time it was a '99 Jeep Cherokee. Not a hoon mobile, not tacked up with a lift kit or anything - just a plain jeep... so it by no means looks suspicious. After that happens I was no longer able to rest coz I'm so annoyed... resulting in me driving the extra 100 odd kms to the next town before I reach a motel. Yeah. Great logic mr policeman!! yeh but trav, mate, you're in Oz.... my experience of Oz cops is they're all dumbasses... i was on a 3 week holiday in melbourne and was stopped 3 times, (twice in one night on the same road!) and the other time was in the middle of nowhere - at 3am....
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Post by Alex Catterall on Sept 22, 2004 20:41:42 GMT
Yeah but whats that got to do with being a dumb a$$? Arn't they just security concious?
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